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	<title>Comments on: Tradedoubler Support?  Computer Says No&#8230;</title>
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	<description>Affiliate marketing news &#038; articles for newbies and pros by Kirsty McCubbin</description>
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		<title>By: Dean</title>
		<link>http://www.affiliatestuff.co.uk/affiliate-annoyances/tradedoubler-support-computer-says-no/comment-page-1/#comment-5908</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kristy,
 
I think I would have worked on a few of the accounts that all are likely to have joined.Its been over a year since I have left, but still keep in contact with a few up there. I can say that the below link does seem pretty up to date. 
http://hst.tradedoubler.com/file/20649/uk/publisher-services/contactAM.html

One thing to keep in mind, is that TD have a dedicated publisher team. I personally think forming relationships with these managers would be a great start.

I may sound bias being ex TD, must say that i do know some people at AW as well. However think TD is a pretty good solid network with huge potential, its a matter of experience and understanding all networks are different, run differently and both have their positives and unfortunately negatives. I personally think success is in a balance for any affiliate and like any form of business forming successful relationships are vital.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kristy,</p>
<p>I think I would have worked on a few of the accounts that all are likely to have joined.Its been over a year since I have left, but still keep in contact with a few up there. I can say that the below link does seem pretty up to date.<br />
<a href="http://hst.tradedoubler.com/file/20649/uk/publisher-services/contactAM.html" rel="nofollow">http://hst.tradedoubler.com/file/20649/uk/publisher-services/contactAM.html</a></p>
<p>One thing to keep in mind, is that TD have a dedicated publisher team. I personally think forming relationships with these managers would be a great start.</p>
<p>I may sound bias being ex TD, must say that i do know some people at AW as well. However think TD is a pretty good solid network with huge potential, its a matter of experience and understanding all networks are different, run differently and both have their positives and unfortunately negatives. I personally think success is in a balance for any affiliate and like any form of business forming successful relationships are vital.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean</title>
		<link>http://www.affiliatestuff.co.uk/affiliate-annoyances/tradedoubler-support-computer-says-no/comment-page-1/#comment-5906</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kristy,
 
I can say i have a little expirence with TD myself, I think I would have worked on a few of the accounts that all are likely to have joined.

Its been over a year since I have left, but still keep in contact with a few up there. I can say that the below link does seem pretty up to date. 

http://hst.tradedoubler.com/file/20649/uk/publisher-services/contactAM.html

One thing to keep in mind, is that TD have a dedicated publisher team. I personally think forming relationships with these managers would be a great start.

I may sound bias being ex TD, must say that I do know some people at AW as well.  To me TD is a pretty solid network with huge potential, its a matter of experience and understanding all networks are different, run different and both have their positives and unfortunately negatives. 

I personally think success is in a balance for any affiliate and like any form of business forming successful relationships are vital.  

Dean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kristy,</p>
<p>I can say i have a little expirence with TD myself, I think I would have worked on a few of the accounts that all are likely to have joined.</p>
<p>Its been over a year since I have left, but still keep in contact with a few up there. I can say that the below link does seem pretty up to date. </p>
<p><a href="http://hst.tradedoubler.com/file/20649/uk/publisher-services/contactAM.html" rel="nofollow">http://hst.tradedoubler.com/file/20649/uk/publisher-services/contactAM.html</a></p>
<p>One thing to keep in mind, is that TD have a dedicated publisher team. I personally think forming relationships with these managers would be a great start.</p>
<p>I may sound bias being ex TD, must say that I do know some people at AW as well.  To me TD is a pretty solid network with huge potential, its a matter of experience and understanding all networks are different, run different and both have their positives and unfortunately negatives. </p>
<p>I personally think success is in a balance for any affiliate and like any form of business forming successful relationships are vital.  </p>
<p>Dean</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.affiliatestuff.co.uk/affiliate-annoyances/tradedoubler-support-computer-says-no/comment-page-1/#comment-5891</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think in the end it simply boils down to the fact that companies are run in a particular way because of the business approach of the people at the top and until they change or until the whole company starts going down the pan, nothing else will change and by then its too late.

Normally if you&#039;re a consumer, you just vote with your feet.   Unfortunately in our world we have to deal with some networks that for as long as I can remember I would rather not have dealt with.  The more &#039;corporate&#039; their apparent approach, the worse they seem at the affiliate end.  Talking the right talk in marketing still carries a load of weight, regardless of performance.

However, I&#039;m guessing that they are viewed as the dog&#039;s whatsits at the merchant end, which is why they haven&#039;t collapsed so far with wholesale movement of key accounts.  Plus the fact that its a growth market still, so they&#039;re protected to a large extent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think in the end it simply boils down to the fact that companies are run in a particular way because of the business approach of the people at the top and until they change or until the whole company starts going down the pan, nothing else will change and by then its too late.</p>
<p>Normally if you&#8217;re a consumer, you just vote with your feet.   Unfortunately in our world we have to deal with some networks that for as long as I can remember I would rather not have dealt with.  The more &#8216;corporate&#8217; their apparent approach, the worse they seem at the affiliate end.  Talking the right talk in marketing still carries a load of weight, regardless of performance.</p>
<p>However, I&#8217;m guessing that they are viewed as the dog&#8217;s whatsits at the merchant end, which is why they haven&#8217;t collapsed so far with wholesale movement of key accounts.  Plus the fact that its a growth market still, so they&#8217;re protected to a large extent.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Wright</title>
		<link>http://www.affiliatestuff.co.uk/affiliate-annoyances/tradedoubler-support-computer-says-no/comment-page-1/#comment-5878</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Kirsty,

Not sure if you’ve stumbled across this but it’s a list of account manager contact details for all the programmes on TD.  It looks to be a little out of date to me as I can see programmes that are no longer live but could be a start.

http://hst.tradedoubler.com/file/20649/uk/publisher-services/contactAM.html

Secondly, it’s also a bit of an eye opener when you start to add up the number of accounts associated with each member of staff.  No wonder it has taken you an age to get a response.  

Service level agreements are certainly high on my agenda when deciding which network we chose to run our clients affiliate programmes.  That said we tend to centrally manage affiliate programme from within the agency these days where we can guarantee a faster response.

If the programme you are trying work with is run by an agency, maybe try contacting them.  That said, if they were any good they would have already found this post and contacted you :)

Thanks
Paul</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Kirsty,</p>
<p>Not sure if you’ve stumbled across this but it’s a list of account manager contact details for all the programmes on TD.  It looks to be a little out of date to me as I can see programmes that are no longer live but could be a start.</p>
<p><a href="http://hst.tradedoubler.com/file/20649/uk/publisher-services/contactAM.html" rel="nofollow">http://hst.tradedoubler.com/file/20649/uk/publisher-services/contactAM.html</a></p>
<p>Secondly, it’s also a bit of an eye opener when you start to add up the number of accounts associated with each member of staff.  No wonder it has taken you an age to get a response.  </p>
<p>Service level agreements are certainly high on my agenda when deciding which network we chose to run our clients affiliate programmes.  That said we tend to centrally manage affiliate programme from within the agency these days where we can guarantee a faster response.</p>
<p>If the programme you are trying work with is run by an agency, maybe try contacting them.  That said, if they were any good they would have already found this post and contacted you <img src='http://www.affiliatestuff.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks<br />
Paul</p>
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		<title>By: Kirsty</title>
		<link>http://www.affiliatestuff.co.uk/affiliate-annoyances/tradedoubler-support-computer-says-no/comment-page-1/#comment-5871</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirsty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and incidentally, if a merchant is with both I&#039;ll run with Awin simply because they have a support system that works well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and incidentally, if a merchant is with both I&#8217;ll run with Awin simply because they have a support system that works well.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirsty</title>
		<link>http://www.affiliatestuff.co.uk/affiliate-annoyances/tradedoubler-support-computer-says-no/comment-page-1/#comment-5870</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirsty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, two debates on one post - we need more of this round here guys.  Nice to see some network points of view on industry issues, so thanks for that Mark &amp; Keir.  

My support ticket is all sorted now, I&#039;ll be adding an update to the post later so its balanced with the new info.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, two debates on one post &#8211; we need more of this round here guys.  Nice to see some network points of view on industry issues, so thanks for that Mark &#038; Keir.  </p>
<p>My support ticket is all sorted now, I&#8217;ll be adding an update to the post later so its balanced with the new info.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Walters</title>
		<link>http://www.affiliatestuff.co.uk/affiliate-annoyances/tradedoubler-support-computer-says-no/comment-page-1/#comment-5869</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Walters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kier makes a good point Stuart, there are many variables that can ultimately affect how much you can earn from different merchants.

We&#039;ve tried to increase the transparency by creating the AWin index score for each merchant which uses an algorithm based on the programmes conversion rate, approval percentage, validation period and epc over the last 3 months.

This alows us to compare brands and sme&#039;s on a like for like basis whilst offering affiliates the breakdown elements that make up the AWin Index score.  This should enable you to ascertain whether a merchant pays more commission and offset this against other key factors like their payment speed or overal approval vs. decline ratio.

Ultimately what suits one affiliate may not suit another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kier makes a good point Stuart, there are many variables that can ultimately affect how much you can earn from different merchants.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve tried to increase the transparency by creating the AWin index score for each merchant which uses an algorithm based on the programmes conversion rate, approval percentage, validation period and epc over the last 3 months.</p>
<p>This alows us to compare brands and sme&#8217;s on a like for like basis whilst offering affiliates the breakdown elements that make up the AWin Index score.  This should enable you to ascertain whether a merchant pays more commission and offset this against other key factors like their payment speed or overal approval vs. decline ratio.</p>
<p>Ultimately what suits one affiliate may not suit another.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never had a response from TD yet... just to rub salt into my wounds I got a missed call fom their main switchboard earlier today but no message was left to say who it was from or what it was about!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never had a response from TD yet&#8230; just to rub salt into my wounds I got a missed call fom their main switchboard earlier today but no message was left to say who it was from or what it was about!</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://www.affiliatestuff.co.uk/affiliate-annoyances/tradedoubler-support-computer-says-no/comment-page-1/#comment-5867</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reminds me of the Simpson&#039;s episode where Homer thinks he&#039;s going to sell his software company to Microsoft for billions, then Bill Gates turns up, trashes his house with a baseball bat, takes the company and says &quot;I didn&#039;t get to the the world&#039;s richest man by writing cheques.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reminds me of the Simpson&#8217;s episode where Homer thinks he&#8217;s going to sell his software company to Microsoft for billions, then Bill Gates turns up, trashes his house with a baseball bat, takes the company and says &#8220;I didn&#8217;t get to the the world&#8217;s richest man by writing cheques.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to jump in here - quite often a larger brand will indeed pay lower commissions for the simple reason that they convert a lot better than smaller companies so can still be competitive doing so but that isn&#039;t always the case by any means. Commission ultimately means nothing until you get a conversion so EPC is the metric that matters most. An SME with a very well optimised site who pays good commissions to build market share can do extremely well for themselves in the affiliate market so it&#039;s always worth trying several merchants out for various products.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to jump in here &#8211; quite often a larger brand will indeed pay lower commissions for the simple reason that they convert a lot better than smaller companies so can still be competitive doing so but that isn&#8217;t always the case by any means. Commission ultimately means nothing until you get a conversion so EPC is the metric that matters most. An SME with a very well optimised site who pays good commissions to build market share can do extremely well for themselves in the affiliate market so it&#8217;s always worth trying several merchants out for various products.</p>
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