I had a very intriguing mail from Ray Theakston earlier today letting me know he has a bit of a question for me about how to monetise his increasingly popular site. Uniquely, he’s asked me the question by posting it publicly on his blog. However, I’ve reproduced his post below for your reading convenience.
Dear Kirsty,
I’ve just relaunched a site that was badly neglected. It regularly had thousands of visitors daily peaking at 125,000 and I didn’t think anything of it but only recently that figure dropped to a lowly 200.
I’ve removed all of the original content of the site and I have spent the first few weeks of August re-building up the pages based around my previous most popular keywords and images.
After it’s redesign launch four weeks ago, I’m now attracting 1,000-4,000 unique visitors daily looking at between 5,000-22,000 pages and this figure is climbing daily.
I’m not quite sure of the traffic as Servage, Statcounter and Google Analytics are all giving me different results. This may be down to how I am presenting the content. The graph above displays the lowest figures of the three, so it’s looking promising.
Speaking of Google, they have been in touch to say that I can’t promote Google Adsense on the site. You see the content is a bit risque, as you’ll soon tell from my most popular pages:
/drunkcelebs/drunk-celebs-upskirt/
/drunkcelebs/drunk-celebs-see-through/
/drunkcelebs/drunk-celebs-flashing/
/drunkcelebs/drunk-celebs-nipple-slip/I’m wondering how I can monetise the site. I don’t want to fill it with full adult porn adverts, so is there anything more subtle I could do?
I’m sure many merchants in the affiliate marketing space won’t want to be associated with a site that focuses on drunk celebrities and includes the odd not-safe-for-work image. The site has profited in the early days though from promoting the likes of Figleaves and JackpotJoy with traditional banners.
I’ve also spotted that a link from my Befuddle home page to an rss feed of my shopping site ShopCodes is ranking highly for some voucher code related keywords. So whilst that page was created as an experiment, I think the site has the potential to exploit the retail market.
Google certainly seems to like the influence of it’s status, being eight years old with a PR4 and it’s WordPress formatting.
My pages are being indexed within hours of posting. The quickest I’ve spotted is two hours between page creation and the page to be indexed by Google on page 1 and for someone to search for a celebrity and land on my site.
The site is on page 1 of Google for the following terms if not the #1 spot itself.
# drunk celebs
# drunk celebrities
# celebs
# uk celebsWho or what can I promote? You’ll see there’s an advert on there for an adult dating site but that is merely a place holder as I want to see what click-throughs it receives. (At the time of writing, it’s got a CTR of 1.02%)
I also know I’ve got a worldwide audience. Visitors from 147 different countries have visited just recently and this is broken down as such …
The UK appears low at 8% but Analytics says the UK accounts for 33% of my traffic and the visitors spend an average of 4.5 minutes viewing content. They seem to stick around
All the best. Cheers,
Ray
Greetings Raymond!
What an interesting site. I saw it prior to your re-launch and the new design definately makes it way more user friendly and “sticky”.
I suppose the issue that you have is as Adsense says – the content is a little on the “naughty” side. It’s tabloid naughty though, not terribly XXX adult. It probably is just risque enough to put a few merchants off, however it clearly brings you in a lot of traffic. Getting rid of it is therefore not an option!
I could agonise over who will and won’t let you promote them, but lets do this from an optimistic point of view. In an ideal world where anyone and everyone you apply to accepts you with open arms.
There Are A Lot of Obvious Product Areas of Appeal To Your Users
For every one of your celebrity names, I’d create a shopping section / category. Link to it from your drunk celeb categories and make “shop for celeb gear” part of your main menu structure. Given your varied demographic, I might create a page or pages that features offers from your top 2 or 3 countries. If it became worth your while later on you could use some IP detecting technology to send your visitors to the right pages for their country of origin. You can then use these pages to punt the following: -
- Any products your celebs are currently putting their name to. All the usual things celebs get involved with, perfumes, aftershave, own brand clothing labels. David and Victoria Beckham are an excellent example of celeb branding gone mad.
- Any products they have been seen to be wearing. Or products that look a lot like some controversial / popular outfit a celeb has recently been papped in. Merchants are always quick to talk about when something they’re stocking has been seen on a celeb or featured in a glossy. Sign up to their newsletters and use their info to help you quickly and efficiently place up to the minute, relevant products on your pages.
- Any products celebs have said they use. For example, loads of Hollywood types are squeezing themselves into SPANX knickers to make themselves look slim on that red carpet. Also celebs are often dropping names of skincare products such as Zelens (Cat Deely and Thandie Newton use this product).
- Products celebs are being paid to advertise. Beyonce is currently advertising L’Oreal products, David Beckham is or has been on Nike products, and lets not forget Dita Von Teese being the current face of wonderbra.
- Less excitingly, there’s always the old biography and autobiography book sales plus any albums currently on release by your featured celebs.
- Push subscription offers to celebrity gossip and style magazines.
Less Directly Related:
- Add a general shopping section with offers and product articles of interest to your demographic.
- Use your advertising space to promote particularly irresistable discount code offers and current merchant sales.
- As you’ll have already worked out, a bit of bingo type stuff is a decent fit for your audience. I have no idea what the conversion rates would be like. I’m suspecting less than stellar.
- Start gathering newsletter subscribers as soon as possible and push the odd irresistable offer at your members. Could bring you in a nice dump of money every now and again if you choose your offers wisely and don’t pollute the subscribers with too much marketing rubbish.
- General designer clothing offers could be a good fit. Merchants like Yoox give a good opportunity to help wannabe celebs find some discount designer bling.
Equally, anything and everything from the above sets of ideas could simply be added into a fully integrated shopping area of the site without cluttering your celeb pages at all. Adding quality, unique content relating to these product areas would probably lead to some pretty fine search engine positions given the trustrank your domain probably has.
Loads of people online search for products they’ve seen on TV and celebs. If you get your SEO right and make sure you keep up to date with what Oprah is talking about or what bra GMTV have just recommended, you could get some really sweet sales.
Whilst We’re Here, You Can Further Develop Your Traffic Through The Addition Of: -
- Celebrity news articles focusing on your users’ area of interest. Mainly documented drunken antics (of which there are many), gossip about what they *might* have done, and also celebrity trainwreck type stories. Britney Spears and Lindsay Lohan could probably populate a site all on their own. Stories such as the hilarious Ralph Fiennes incident involving a Qantas air hostess and an airplane toilet would have your users returning again and again.
I hope this has given you some ideas Ray. To be honest I sort of envy you this site, I’d really love to have something like this to have a bit of a play around with. I think that with the right content, product placement, and SEO you will have an extremely valuable bit of internet real estate on your hands.
You may even be able to give me back that fiver you whipped out from under my nose in Newcastle!
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August 20th, 2008 at 11:16 am
to me if you have pics of celebs then an ideal thing to advertise is the classic “buy the same dress or outfit that the celeb is wearing” a pic of the celeb wearing it with the advert of the retailer where u can buy it , check out motelrocks or boredofthehighstreet on paidonresults , as they have the celeb fashion section which will fit in well
August 20th, 2008 at 11:46 am
I think you need to look at the demographics of the site – pics of celebs with their nips out is less likely to attract as seen on star type female shoppers imo.
Jason
August 20th, 2008 at 12:39 pm
To follow on from Jason’s comment, I’m not sure that I would buy anything from a website that features humiliating intrusive shots of mostly female celebs. Or maybe that’s just little old fashioned me who finds the exploitation of drunk ladies demeaning and sexist?
Perhaps another angle to go for would be to go for a Paparazzi Tool Kit including
*paparazzi cameras can cost up to £6k.
*knee pads for “up skirt shots” (which by the way, are frowned up by some agencies, but hey, what the hell!)
or online voyeurs kits including
*tissues
*lube
*eye tests in case he or she fears for their eyesight after all that monkey-spanking
‘cos they sure ain’t going to be doing any other kind of shopping.
)
Jude
August 20th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
Jason – I hadn’t really considered the site from the more “voyeuristic” or “pornographic” point of view. I looked at it and thought most of the people visiting it would be interested in the celeb goss and controversy side of things as opposed to the nudity. Perhaps I’m just niaeve in that respect!
Jude – Well, its plain to see that this site isn’t going to be for everyone. Your reaction to the content demonstrates a fair number of women would be incredibly pissed off!
I have to say I wasn’t even remotely offended by the content. I didn’t even consider it might be thought of as anything other than a giggle till your comment, which perhaps says more about me than anything else
August 20th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
The key question then is it a girly celebs wearing the latest fashion site or a blokey site showing female celebs caught unawares?
Maybe you’re right and it is for the “celeb goss” crowd, but my first thought was it would appeal more to “zoo” and “nuts” type readers rather than “cosmo” or “heat”.
Deciding the target audience for the content would make a massive difference on how to monetise things imo.
Anyway I’m off to calm Mary Whitehouse, I mean Jude, down now – get her to climb off her soapbox! ;o)
August 20th, 2008 at 1:54 pm
per- am not a prude, honest ;o)
I confess I do spend a little too much time looking for competitions at Men’s Health- but I do read the articles too!
August 20th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
Hmmmm Jason – I’m really not sure now. Personally I’ve had an interest in doing a site like Ray’s (not with the boobies and things) with gossip and controversy type news monitised in a way similar to what I’m talking about above.
With that in mind, i’ve probably focused on the type of site I’d want it to be. It did cross my mind after I read your comment and noted how alienated your good lady was with the content, that if it was my site I’d probably re-align the content to make it more “mainstream”. As someone has commented on Ray’s blog I’d also be a bit scared about all those pics other people took!
Perhaps you could monetise the site from a “Zoo” and “Nuts” type perspective but it’d be all blokey gadgets and football shirts, cars and other man things (boring!!).
Jude, LOL. I just look at the pictures myself
August 23rd, 2008 at 8:51 am
my 2p
* it’s full of boobies and up knicker shots – I think it’s a lads site (Zoo) not a girlie celebrity gossip site. It’s important to decide.
* most affiliate sites I know are based around a product area or lifestyle vertical with clear product association – ‘what can I promote?’ is a non-question for them
* that means a visitor is already 1/2 way to a purchase when they arrive, they’ve expressed an interest just be being there
* this is not so for befuddle. Maybe the fact Ray has to ask the question suggests this is not a good site for affiliating
* so monetize it as you can on CPM, pump out the content and the page impressions – (then sell it to one of the tabloids or lads mags, who can monetize it)
* there’s a vid here http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/18/engrishfunny-is-newest-site-in-lolcats-empire/ of the guy who runs the lolcat sites (I can has cheezeburger) – his model is basically Ray’s too (ignore that he published kittens and Ray publishes boobies)
* Ray if high impressions is your target (hence ad inventory), ditch Highslide and show each large photo under a new url
… and start over with something new …