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	<description>Affiliate marketing news &#038; articles for newbies and pros by Kirsty McCubbin</description>
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		<title>By: Les Mc</title>
		<link>http://www.affiliatestuff.co.uk/general/what-super-affiliates-and-all-affiliates-really-want/comment-page-1/#comment-3356</link>
		<dc:creator>Les Mc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been an affiliate manager for 12 years and an affiliate even longer. Although we were not called affiliates then just advertisers. 
I think the main problem for new affiliates is that they are never given real expectations by affiliate managers. Basically they all say, &quot;Display our stuff and watch the money roll in&quot;. 
Everyone wants something for nothing, but the amount of time, effort and money super affiliates put in is massive.
Working in the Casino/poker sector I can say that 90% of affiliate revenue in the UK is provided by 10 affiliates. These affiliates have a bigger marketing budget than some of the casinos they are promoting and can demand up to 50% of net revenue. 
One extreme example of a casino super affiliate that I know of:
Staff 30 mainly content management and ppc.
Number of web sites 200 plus
Offers a one-way link exchange with casino sites of pr3 and above.
Advertises more than 30 casinos each having equal exposure.
Can&#039;t say how much he makes, but for one of the casinos I worked for he was making about 70K to 80k per month 6 years ago. 
What affiliate managers should be saying to newcomers is:
&quot;Put all your efforts into developing a good informative website and concentrate on SEO and any initial profits earned should be put straight back into advertising your site. Eventually you will be able to make some money. How much depends on you&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been an affiliate manager for 12 years and an affiliate even longer. Although we were not called affiliates then just advertisers.<br />
I think the main problem for new affiliates is that they are never given real expectations by affiliate managers. Basically they all say, &#8220;Display our stuff and watch the money roll in&#8221;.<br />
Everyone wants something for nothing, but the amount of time, effort and money super affiliates put in is massive.<br />
Working in the Casino/poker sector I can say that 90% of affiliate revenue in the UK is provided by 10 affiliates. These affiliates have a bigger marketing budget than some of the casinos they are promoting and can demand up to 50% of net revenue.<br />
One extreme example of a casino super affiliate that I know of:<br />
Staff 30 mainly content management and ppc.<br />
Number of web sites 200 plus<br />
Offers a one-way link exchange with casino sites of pr3 and above.<br />
Advertises more than 30 casinos each having equal exposure.<br />
Can&#8217;t say how much he makes, but for one of the casinos I worked for he was making about 70K to 80k per month 6 years ago.<br />
What affiliate managers should be saying to newcomers is:<br />
&#8220;Put all your efforts into developing a good informative website and concentrate on SEO and any initial profits earned should be put straight back into advertising your site. Eventually you will be able to make some money. How much depends on you&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: guitar</title>
		<link>http://www.affiliatestuff.co.uk/general/what-super-affiliates-and-all-affiliates-really-want/comment-page-1/#comment-1455</link>
		<dc:creator>guitar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 04:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Affiliates need to be paid. Don&#039;t scam affiliates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Affiliates need to be paid. Don&#8217;t scam affiliates.</p>
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		<title>By: Guest Post 1: Super Affiliates - Where Are You? &#124; Affiliate Marketing Blog from UK Offer Media</title>
		<link>http://www.affiliatestuff.co.uk/general/what-super-affiliates-and-all-affiliates-really-want/comment-page-1/#comment-666</link>
		<dc:creator>Guest Post 1: Super Affiliates - Where Are You? &#124; Affiliate Marketing Blog from UK Offer Media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 09:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and companies who earn scads of cash from this affiliate business. Kirsty recently posted about What Super Affiliates Really Want. And that&#8217;s what we want to give them - if only they would work with [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and companies who earn scads of cash from this affiliate business. Kirsty recently posted about What Super Affiliates Really Want. And that&#8217;s what we want to give them &#8211; if only they would work with [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sanela Mujakovic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sanela Mujakovic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 11:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being Affiliate Manager myself, I can not agree with Kirsty more... I am an affiliate manager of Leisure Direction, UK&#039;s Tour Operator.

We have been running an in-house affiliate program for over 2 years and have also tested waters with Networks too. The success of our in-house program has been phenomenal and is down to personal relationships and making sures affiliates are updated with all the special offers to help them increase their conversions and drive more traffic to the site with offers that customers will respond well to. We communicate regularly with our in-house affiliates; they know I am just a phone call away and will respond via email, if not within an hour, then certainly the same day, sometimes even late in the evenings as I work from home. This has been hugely appreciated by affiliates. We treat them as partners and they are an integral part of our business.

Saying all that, I am extremely frustrated with Networks. We have not been able to replicate the same relationship through them. With some, we can not even pick up a phone and can only contact them affiliates via their Email Affiliate interface. It is very impersonal. Feeding regular offers every week once or twice is not as effective than when done through an in-house program. 

Any suggestions how to overcome this problem?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being Affiliate Manager myself, I can not agree with Kirsty more&#8230; I am an affiliate manager of Leisure Direction, UK&#8217;s Tour Operator.</p>
<p>We have been running an in-house affiliate program for over 2 years and have also tested waters with Networks too. The success of our in-house program has been phenomenal and is down to personal relationships and making sures affiliates are updated with all the special offers to help them increase their conversions and drive more traffic to the site with offers that customers will respond well to. We communicate regularly with our in-house affiliates; they know I am just a phone call away and will respond via email, if not within an hour, then certainly the same day, sometimes even late in the evenings as I work from home. This has been hugely appreciated by affiliates. We treat them as partners and they are an integral part of our business.</p>
<p>Saying all that, I am extremely frustrated with Networks. We have not been able to replicate the same relationship through them. With some, we can not even pick up a phone and can only contact them affiliates via their Email Affiliate interface. It is very impersonal. Feeding regular offers every week once or twice is not as effective than when done through an in-house program. </p>
<p>Any suggestions how to overcome this problem?</p>
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		<title>By: anoxia</title>
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		<dc:creator>anoxia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 08:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what I am sort of reading from your article is that perhaps being an affiliate manager is not a very attractive option compared to being a successful and independent super affiliate.
Or else why don&#039;t we see ex-affiliates bcoming affiliate managers? I mean really, we would be the best candidates for the job. Maybe it&#039;s time companies start recruiting among their own affiliates and offer the kind of salary it would take to attract them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what I am sort of reading from your article is that perhaps being an affiliate manager is not a very attractive option compared to being a successful and independent super affiliate.<br />
Or else why don&#8217;t we see ex-affiliates bcoming affiliate managers? I mean really, we would be the best candidates for the job. Maybe it&#8217;s time companies start recruiting among their own affiliates and offer the kind of salary it would take to attract them.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirsty</title>
		<link>http://www.affiliatestuff.co.uk/general/what-super-affiliates-and-all-affiliates-really-want/comment-page-1/#comment-550</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirsty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 00:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Richard,

The Affiliate Future system doesn&#039;t make things terribly easy.  However, in the past I&#039;ve simply gone through all the sites making money on AF and found contact details on them, setting up my own database of people to talk to about performance.  Also, sometimes you have to locate your own super affiliates, alas, I&#039;ve rarely found one comes knocking!  Check out who&#039;s ranking for terms relating to your key revenue building areas... and identify which sites are e-commerce and which are affiliate sites.  Being familiar with your search space is an excellent first step.

I do promote a couple of Lovehoney products which were part of a PPC test I ran a while back, and I&#039;m quite impressed with conversions.  Lovehoney definately has my stamp of approval.  I must find time to do more with you guys.

I don&#039;t think Nadeem meant to tar affiliate managers with the same brush. He is, after all, an affiliate manager himself!  It is easy for affiliates to feel that affiliate managers are against them and make sweeping statements.  I do too sometimes... it&#039;s hard not to when you regularly come up against the &quot;brick wall&quot; to progress that is an untrained or ill informed AM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Richard,</p>
<p>The Affiliate Future system doesn&#8217;t make things terribly easy.  However, in the past I&#8217;ve simply gone through all the sites making money on AF and found contact details on them, setting up my own database of people to talk to about performance.  Also, sometimes you have to locate your own super affiliates, alas, I&#8217;ve rarely found one comes knocking!  Check out who&#8217;s ranking for terms relating to your key revenue building areas&#8230; and identify which sites are e-commerce and which are affiliate sites.  Being familiar with your search space is an excellent first step.</p>
<p>I do promote a couple of Lovehoney products which were part of a PPC test I ran a while back, and I&#8217;m quite impressed with conversions.  Lovehoney definately has my stamp of approval.  I must find time to do more with you guys.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Nadeem meant to tar affiliate managers with the same brush. He is, after all, an affiliate manager himself!  It is easy for affiliates to feel that affiliate managers are against them and make sweeping statements.  I do too sometimes&#8230; it&#8217;s hard not to when you regularly come up against the &#8220;brick wall&#8221; to progress that is an untrained or ill informed AM.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Longhurst</title>
		<link>http://www.affiliatestuff.co.uk/general/what-super-affiliates-and-all-affiliates-really-want/comment-page-1/#comment-549</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Longhurst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 21:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kirsty,
Great post - LoveHoney would like to offer super-affiliates exactly what they want... But who are they? Where are they? How do we get in touch with them?

We have an in-house program and a program on Affiliate Future who, amazingly, won&#039;t share our own affiliates&#039; contact details with us.

Super-affiliates - please mail me richard at lovehoney.co.uk and let&#039;s work together to make some £££s. We&#039;ll give you what you want!

Gentle aside: for me, how is the comment from Nadeem about affiliate managers different from Robertson&#039;s notorious &quot;grubby little people&quot; quote?

I&#039;m sure some affiliate managers are crap and some are great - but to tar them all with the same brush is no doubt as offensive to affiliate managers as Robertson&#039;s was to affiliates...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kirsty,<br />
Great post &#8211; LoveHoney would like to offer super-affiliates exactly what they want&#8230; But who are they? Where are they? How do we get in touch with them?</p>
<p>We have an in-house program and a program on Affiliate Future who, amazingly, won&#8217;t share our own affiliates&#8217; contact details with us.</p>
<p>Super-affiliates &#8211; please mail me richard at lovehoney.co.uk and let&#8217;s work together to make some £££s. We&#8217;ll give you what you want!</p>
<p>Gentle aside: for me, how is the comment from Nadeem about affiliate managers different from Robertson&#8217;s notorious &#8220;grubby little people&#8221; quote?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure some affiliate managers are crap and some are great &#8211; but to tar them all with the same brush is no doubt as offensive to affiliate managers as Robertson&#8217;s was to affiliates&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: “Super Affiliate” study from R.O. Eye disappoints &#187; Ecommerce Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.affiliatestuff.co.uk/general/what-super-affiliates-and-all-affiliates-really-want/comment-page-1/#comment-546</link>
		<dc:creator>“Super Affiliate” study from R.O. Eye disappoints &#187; Ecommerce Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 15:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] If anyone wants to read the full press release then Keith has it here, and Kirsty has some chat about it here. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Super Affiliate" study from R.O. Eye disappoints &#124; Affiliate Marketing Blog from UK Offer Media</title>
		<link>http://www.affiliatestuff.co.uk/general/what-super-affiliates-and-all-affiliates-really-want/comment-page-1/#comment-545</link>
		<dc:creator>Super Affiliate" study from R.O. Eye disappoints &#124; Affiliate Marketing Blog from UK Offer Media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 14:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] If anyone wants to read the full press release then Keith has it here, and Kirsty has some chat about it here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] If anyone wants to read the full press release then Keith has it here, and Kirsty has some chat about it here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: KirstyM</title>
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		<dc:creator>KirstyM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 05:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do agree with you there Andrew.  There are quite a few UK networks who are constantly innovating and listening to affiliates requirement.  It&#039;s when they try and educate a lot of the merchants currently on the go that things seem to go awry.

That&#039;s why I really do feel it&#039;s time for merchants to individually take responsibility for in-house training and education.  More knowledge and attention to affiliate programmes from merchants can only mean more revenue for all concerned.

All to the good I say!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do agree with you there Andrew.  There are quite a few UK networks who are constantly innovating and listening to affiliates requirement.  It&#8217;s when they try and educate a lot of the merchants currently on the go that things seem to go awry.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I really do feel it&#8217;s time for merchants to individually take responsibility for in-house training and education.  More knowledge and attention to affiliate programmes from merchants can only mean more revenue for all concerned.</p>
<p>All to the good I say!</p>
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